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East of Eden or the Myth of Cain and Abel

The nice movie “East of Eden” by Elia Kazan (USA, 1955) was broadcast again on Italian TV some months ago. This movie, based on the equally fascinating novel by John Steinbeck, reproposes to us the ancient myth of Cain and Abel. So I wanted to deepen it with few considerations that also regard us astrologers. The film of the great “communist” director describes the story of two brothers, the one exceedingly meek and the other very bad (but most of all full of complexes), played by an excellent James Dean, about the entrance in war by the United States in the Forties.

The same myth was elaborated a lot of times in cinema and in literature, but also in painting, in sculpture, etc.

Also the same topic is dealt with in the recent movie by director Susanne Bier, Open Hearts, Denmark, 2005, film that I haven’t seen but about which I have read some reviews.


The story is old and all of us know it as it brings us back to some of the most terrible crimes of contemporary society: only to remain in the Italian context and, extending the speech to the different branches of family in the strict sense of the word, we can remember Erika-Cain (a fifteen-year old girl that massacred her mother and her little brother by over one hundred stabbings), passing through also for the murder of her child by Anna Maria Franzoni and for an impressive series of parricides, massacres of entire families by one of its members, of execrable delicts that all have only one point in common: the broken taboo, that leave us dismayed, exactly of the Cain and Abel myth.

A dear friend of mine, when sometimes we speak about human miseries, repeats to me: “After all even Cain was a brother…”.

And who could deny it?

The point is, from the moment in which we continuously ask the opinion of sociologists, psychologists, psychiatrics, philosophers, know-alls – like Mrs. Gatto-Trocchi (an anthropologist that continuously attacked Astrology because it was not scientific and after she committed suicide), priests and others –: according to Astrology, these repeated and everlasting violent delicts should be read as the expressions of fleeting and unidentified raptus or should they be inscribed in evil, since birth in the DNA of a subject?

In my opinion the evil exists and from it abominable crimes can derive, also when the public opinion, acquiescent acritical and a good thinking at all cost, would talk about “a defect of the toy” or would like to “psychologize”, in all occasions, the homicide and rush to give the Erika of the moment in the hands of a “psychologist-mechanic”.


I cannot absolutely agree. In my opinion the evil exists and has some precise icons in the asters language: from a dissonant aspect Mars-Saturn – on the top of the list – going on with a strong Mars or with a lot of bad angles with the other part of the Natal Chart, to a concentration of asters and of selfish and dominant signs.

That the mainspring could be, in many cases, a feeling of inferiority towards a brother or a sister (strong values in Capricorn or Saturn), well, I think that this would only explain the beginning of the track, but not the strongest push that will arm Erika’s hand.

Cain and Abel were sons of Adam and Eve. Cain was a farmer, Abel was a shepherd. They both brought sacrifices before God, but Cain's offering was rejected. Cain then killed Abel.

Cain was cursed and spent the rest of his life wandering in the land Nod, east of Eden.


Tintoretto was a follower of Michelangelo and Titian. He painted in a style called mannerism, which followed after the Renaissance. The figure of Abel in this painting shows some resemblance to the Abel in Titian's depiction of Cain and Abel.


From http://www.artbible.info/art/large/81.html

Adolf Hitler, Braunau (Austria), April 20th 1889, 6.30 pm. Below Benito Mussolini, Predappio, July 29th 1883, 1.54 pm. As regards the German dictator we have a narrow square Mars-Saturn, with the latter Dominant. For Benito Mussolini, the fourfold conjunction Moon-Mars-Saturn-Pluto, and what is more in the House of love and of war, in addition to a Scorpio Ascendant, I think doesn’t need any comment.

Heinrich Himmler, Munich, October 7th 1900, 3.30 pm. Surely one of the main people responsible and planners of the Shoah, the massacre of 6 millions of Jews. In this Natal Chart, probably to be corrected to fifteen-twenty minutes earlier, we see a Dominant Mars at Descendant and a Saturn with a lot of aspects and most of all squared, at zero degrees, with the Moon: in my opinion one of the greatest historical examples of “sheer evil”.

Joseph Goebbels, October 29th 1897, at Rheydt, at 11.30 pm. Mars and Saturn strongly evident and a lot of Scorpio values.

 

Obviously we are not theorizing that all those who have, in their Natal Chart, a strong Mars or a damaged Mars in parallel to equally relevant Saturn or Capricorn values is, necessarily, wicked. Instead, we can say, in my experience and knowledge, that the reciprocal is true: it is almost absolutely certain that, if a person is objectively bad, we will note, in his Natal Chart, these astrological elements. In other words it is my intention to present the Reader with the following thesis: the prejudice-taboo linked to the supposed impossibility of the human evil is as stupid as the other that would like to find always a psychological cause for the bestial behaviour of some people.

Stalin and Saddam Hussein. What astrologer would not pay to get the birth data of these two men? Unfortunately, in their case, even the year of birth is not certain. Their biography, is useful, however, to establish that evil has no particular political colour.

In the Liliana Cavani movie Beyond good and evil, the topic of this short essay is discussed. From il MORANDINI – Movies Dictionary: “Freely inspired to historical reality, it is the novel of a woman and two men, Lou von Salomé, Friedrich Nietzsche, Paul Rée, that towards the end of the 19th century try to actuate a sentimental trinity”.

Liliana Cavani, Carpi, January 12^th 1933, at 3.45 am.

Erika De Nardo, Novi Ligure, April 28th 1984, at 10.45 pm. There is a loose, very loose but not inexistent, conjunction Mars-Saturn in the Natal Chart, Dominant at the Ascendant. Saturn seriously offends the Sun.

Omar Mauro Favaro, Novi Ligure, May 15th 1983, at 7.05 pm. Saturn is Dominant and Mars is particularly virulent in the conjunction with the Sun and in the Seventh House.

If I had to think of a literary representation of evil, leaving the obvious and excluding, then, the Devil figure, I think that I would indicate, as pure representation of wickedness, personified and not contaminated by any positive sentiment, the abominable mister and mistress Thénardier of The Miserables by Victor Hugo.

Charlie Manson, the killer of Sharon Tate and of other stars of American movie. He was born in Cincinnati, Ohio, on November 12th 1934, at 4.40 pm. In this case, in my opinion, the evil has nothing to do with it, since we are witnessing one of the most absolute cases (again in my opinion) of pure madness (the conjunction, at zero degrees, of Mars-Neptune, that forms a lot of aspects, significantly stays in the House of cinema and actors).

The serial killer Donato Bilancia, born in Potenza on 10 July 1951, at 2.30 am. Mars is in the First House and it is conjunct to the Sun and Uranus, but it is also squared to Saturn that is closely conjunct to the Moon. It is really appalling to read his declarations regarding some of his many crimes as in the case of that poor woman on the train killed without any apparent valid reason if we exclude that of expressing again the pure and simple evil inborn with the subject.

Marc Dutroux, the Marcinelle monster, born in Ixelles (Belgium), on November 6th 1956, at 7.35 am. In this case, in my opinion, we are closer to madness (led by very strong drives of sexual depravations) than to evil, in fact the Dominant Pluto and Neptune, together with the strong Scorpio values, but with Mars and Saturn in a second plane, make us think of the first reading of the subject rather than of the second.

Genesis 4

New International Version (NIV)

Genesis 4

Cain and Abel

 ¹ Adam^[a] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.^[b] She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth^[c] a man.” ² Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

   Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. ³ In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD. ⁴ And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, ⁵ but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.

 ⁶ Then the LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? ⁷ If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”

 ⁸ Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.”^[d] While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.

 ⁹ Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”

   “I don’t know,” he replied. “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

 ¹⁰ The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. ¹¹ Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. ¹²When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”

 ¹³ Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is more than I can bear. ¹⁴ Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

 ¹⁵ But the LORD said to him, “Not so^[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. ¹⁶ So Cain went out from the LORD’s presence and lived in the land of Nod,^[f] east of Eden.

 ¹⁷ Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch. ¹⁸ To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech.

Grazie infinite Ciro,per la tua generosità e per avermi risposto subito. Un viaggio del genere non posso proprio permettermelo. C'è una località più facilmente raggiungibile dove possa per lo meno "salvarmi"?Non sai che cosa ho passato in questi quattro anni,prima un bellissimo terremoto,poi gli abbissi.Pensavo di non farcela,anche se mi ha portato al "salto quantico" per la crescita personale. Il problema è che sono profondalmente coinvolta con quella che so essere la mia fiamma gemella(10-1-1950 novara).Dove posso andare per raggiungerlo se scappa dai suoi sentimenti che teme? Stefania da Venezia

Cara Stefania,

io credo che il sistema complessivo dell'Astrologia Attiva sia, al tempo stesso, qualcosa di meraviglioso e di limitato. Meraviglioso perché ci permette di migliorare molto la qualità della nostra vita. Limitato perché si tratta di una "coperta corta": se ti copri il capo, ti scopri i piedi. Siccome dei danni li subiamo sempre nel corso dell'anno, se io parto da una ASR buonissima posso sperare di aiutare molto chi mi chiede un consiglio. Se scendo a patti perché il viaggio è costoso o troppo impegnativo, allora sono correo nelle prove anche pesanti che io stesso vado ad "attivare". Per questo motivo non faccio sconti in chilometraggio. Però ci sono bravi colleghi che sono meno rigidi di me, su questo punto, e che possono aiutarti. Un caro saluto.

  Cara Aleph, mi scuso per il ritardo ma per lavoro sono spesso lontana. Torno oggi dalla Tailandia. Vedo che Ciro ha gia' risposto alla tua domanda in modo esemplare, come sempre. Io ho dato anche uno sguardo al tuo tema natale in cui e' segnalata gia' una presenza di pesante di Saturno in casa ottava ed un Plutone in casa undicesima...i due in questa case la dicono gia' lunga. La tua RS ha fatto il resto Urano in 12ma di rivoluzione, Plutone in cuspide ottava e nona casa Saturno in cuspide sesta settima, non hai avuto ne' appoggi ne' sostegni, opposto all'asc e sole in cuspide seconda e terza di RS...urano in seconda che annuncia di solito drammatici dissesti finanziari..forse il tuo licenziamento era cosa annunciata.
Credo che l'errore sia stato opporsi alle nuove direttive, cosa che ti ha creato non poche inimicizie...se avessi fatto buon viso...forse...sei andata a sbugiardare qualcuno che era gia' in bilico di suo, che non ha esitato a farti fuori con tutti i mezzi leciti e non...ho vissuto la stessa quadratura a meta' settembre, credimi ti capisco...la diffamazione era arrivata alle stelle e la persecuzione era da codice penale...credo che il colpevole che cerchi sia da ricercare nelle persone nelle quali hai avuto fiducia...l'incontro che hai avuto e' da cercare nella tua quinta casa di RS..ti auguro di tenere duro e di riuscire con l'appoggio di una buona RSM, a rimetterti in sesto quanto prima e non e' detto che tu non possa trovare di meglio.
Ricordati pero', e questo l'ho imparato a suon di bastonate, che chi come noi non ha paura di esprimere le proprie idee dara' sempre fastidio ai mediocri che occupano purtroppo nella societa' delle posizioni di potere che usano per impedire a chi merita veramente di emergere...

Tanti, tantissimi auguri...di cuore

Laly

Grazie della tua risposta Ciro, pensavo di poter mettere stellium di 8^ a fronte di una buona ASR, in ogni caso è vero che se dal mio tema natale non vi sono indicazioni specifiche di vincite, meglio metterci una pietra sopra e poi...uomo avvisato, mezzo salvato, no?
In merito alla rilocazione migliore per il mio tema natale hai una località che puoi suggerirmi?
Come sempre un abbraccio e grazie ancora per la tua disponibilità.
Vania 

Cara Vania,

il posto ideale per te nel mondo è Vicenza, dove sei nata, con una meravigliosa Venere incollata al Medio Cielo!

Ciao Ciro e un saluto a tutti gli esperti e appassionati di Astrologia Attiva.
Sono Raph, nato a Crispiano (TA) il 02.08.1965 alle ore 00.03 e vivo a Bry-sur-Marne, 18 chilometri a EST dal centro di Parigi. Ho trascorso la mia RSM 2011 a GISBORNE - NUOVA ZELANDA.
Sto cercando di studiare la mia RSM 2012. A causa dell'imminente congiunzione Marte-Saturno e il contemporaneo effetto forbice del Sole a circa 67 gradi da Marte, in occasione del mio compleanno solare, la ricerca del luogo in cui trascorrere il mio prossimo compleanno risulta essere alquanto perniciosa! ;) Ho individuato, a dire il vero, una localita' Siberiana che sarebbe ideale per posizionare Marte e Saturno in 9a casa. La localita' Russa sarebbe Balygycan... il problema e' che risulta essere disabitata... Ho un'azione legale in corso contro il mio ex-datore di lavoro inglese per recuperare delle competenze che non vogliono pagarmi, pur essendo riconosciute dalla legge italiana. Potreste consigliarmi in merito, per favore, soprattutto in luce dell'azione nefasta di Marte e Saturno congiunti? Secondo Voi sarebbe possibile, almeno, separarli in 2 case diverse? Saturno, purtroppo, ha alcuni gradi di vantaggio rispetto a Marte e non risulta certo d'aiuto, nel caso volessimo sdoppiarli fra 9a e Xa casa...
Grazie mille e buona settimana a tutti.
Raph.

Benvenuto Raph da Parigi!

Se il tuo orario di nascita è giusto, questa è la soluzione. Se è sbagliato, il viaggio alle Faroe ti sarà comunque molto utile. Con i migliori auguri.

 

Buona Giornata a Tutti.

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